RE: de chat...
Ik heb geen idee waarom je nu loopt te roepen dat ik negatief bezig ben of iets dergelijks, en waarom jij meent dat het vanuit de punk scene komt terwijl de geschiedenis (etymologie) van het woord queer wel redelijk duidelijk te volgen is. Dit staat dan ook op alle sites die ik zo kan vinden, en ik zou nog steeds graag bewijs zien voor je theorie, die verder strekt dan "ik ben Brits en punkliefhebber".
In de chat noemde je ook dat er in het artikel (
https://www.bustle.com/articles/139727- ... -community) "it depends on who you ask" staat, alsof het om het ontstaan van de term gaat, wat niet waar is. Het was enkel over de vraag of queer offensive is of niet, dus eigenlijk wat hier in het topic ook al naar voren kwam/duidelijk bleek.
EDIT: Quote uit het artikel mbt. de originele betekenis(sen) van het woord queer en het gebruik van queer door de eeuwen:
In terms of etymology, "queer" has a pretty interesting background. There are a lot of competing theories about what the word "queer originally meant, but in summation, it always meant "not straight." So as Cara over at Autostraddle points out,"“queer” set itself up as “not straight” centuries before “straight” had even been thought about as a sexual identity. For a while, "queer" had a lot of connotative uses as well, implying that people were drunk, giddy, or happy.
By the early 1900s, "queer" became used to reference homosexuals both by people within the community (Gertrude Stein in her poetry, for example) and people outside of the community (newspapers, for instance). Mostly, "queer" was used in a negative fashion in the way that words like "d*ke" or "f*gg*t" were, and this became even more popular in the 1950s and beyond. Therein, many people who are middle aged or older have some strong negative associations with the word, particularly because of bullying and harassment at school.
Now, many people are making an effort to reclaim the word queer, arguing that the word is more inclusive, and pointing out that by reclaiming a word, the community can have ownership and power over a word once used to hurt them. This movement to reclaim "queer" started in the 1980s and has become progressively more popular in the decades since, though it's still a divisive concept.